http://digg.com/health/Vegan_Parents_Sta鈥?/a>|||I actually first heard about it on Y answers. Very sad situation indeed.
I agree with you, the parents choice was to be vegans, something their newborn couldn't decide upon.
Whilst I respect their wishes to be vegans, they never should have imposed it onto their newborn.|||Im not vegan, but I don't consider being vegan as the reason their child died. Aparently, some "vegans" out there think breast milk is as disgusting as cow milk, so they fk it and try 'Natural' options. I would say being ignorant (or actually wanting to kill the baby, as was said) was the reason.
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|||It sounds to me like there were just some ignorant choices made by the parents. I am pretty sure there are a lot of babies nowadays on a vegan diet and are perfectly fine. (though I am not a vegan)
It's just sad that a baby had to lose it's life because of someone else's stupidity.|||I am not a vegan. But come on, the fact that these people were Vegans had NOTHING to do with their child's death. These were sick, mental cases who were clearly not living in reality and for you to think anything different makes you as dangerous as they are. And no, I am not a veggie in any way, shape or form. However since being on YA and reading post by veggies I think the majority of them are some highly intelligent people who are disciplined in their lifestyle and very passionate about what they do and I don't believe for one second that a normal person, veggie or not, would hurt an innocent child.
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Hello! Idiot! Can you read (we already know you can't spell) I am not a vegan, nor even a veggie. Midwest girl through and through, pro farmer, pro meat packer, pro whateverthehelk.
The fact of the matter is that these peoples' sense of reality, veggie or not, was completely out of whack. THAT, my mentally challenged friend, is what killed their baby.|||I read the headline but didn't read the story about it. It is heart breaking. It is especially heart breaking now that I am a father of a little girl. She's 17 months old now but I couldn't possibly imagine not having her.|||Yeah, I read about it. They are both in jail for life! They deserve to starve to death in my opinion. Anyone who feels it's okay to harm an innocent little baby needs to be punished in the same way! MONSTERS!!!|||They survived eating the foods that they deprived their poor innocent babe. Vegans take note - this kind of treatment will not be accepted anymore - you cannot use that as a defense. I cannot understand how they did not see that they were depriving their babe of nutrition and LIFE.|||children need what they need and if they arn't getting what they need due to any reason wether it be a vegan lifestyle or otherwise is NEGLECT....there are lots of things i don't like but i don't force my beliefs on to my children they can make up their own mind when they r old enough and as bad as this sounds i would rather an animal die if it meant my child would live.....|||I thought the story said that the parents fed it soy milk and juice???
If that is the case, they were starving the baby, by not feeding it enough.
Plenty of infants drink soy formula.......
Sad, sad story!|||Obviously these people didn't know much about feeding an infant. I don't think it proves anything about how good/bad vegan diets are. Everybody knows that infants should be fed formula and not any normal milk, whether it's cow or soy milk.
Formula milk made of soy is available, and I know of many babies who couldn't tolerate the cow milk varieties, but thrived on this.
It's sad, yes, but it proves nothing.|||I often wonder about what we eat may effect us later in life.
There is a reason women develop breast milk when pregnant.
If anyone knows anything about biology you would feed your child nothing but breast milk, there are things in it that you must have for proper brain development; cows a soy do not have all the things you need for this.
Sure you may survive drinking other types of milk, but it wasn't natures formula for mankind.|||Seriously that was stupid. They fed the baby apple juice and soy milk. You have got to be kidding me, right? They couldn't figure out that maybe they should chop up some fruit and vegetables and make their own organic baby food. How stupid are these people?|||"EDIT Come on BLUESEA, you say the fact that these parents were vegan had nothing to do with there childs death? Get Real! It have everything to do with it. The fact that they were vegan is precisely why they fed the child a vegan diet. You cannot arbitrarily dismiss the FACT that these parents were vegans."
So all the other starved babies that were non vegan...should we blame that on the meat eating parents??? These people were obviously misinformed and extremely sick in the head. What mother denies their baby breast milk and or formula??? Only the sick ones!!
Im sorry Im not defending neglecting parents in any form...that was NOT a vegan diet. that was neglect. Human breast milk IS vegan. You cannot assume all vegans would ever treat their child that way, which is EXACTLY what you are doing, that is ridiculous.
I couldnt help but do a little further research into you to understand your point of view. I dont think I have ever met a vegetarian with such a vendeta against vegans. Take a look inside yourself, maybe this has more to do with you than vegans. Its pretty obvious you arent concerned with your question at hand, and at this point arguing for the sake of arguement. If you were an informed vegetarian, forget vegan, you would be alot smarter than your comments show.|||What's wrong with you? You ignorant fool.
"To feed a 6-week-old a vegan diet" is such an idiotic thing to say.
As far as I know, 6-week-olds do not eat anything other than their mothers' milk. They don't eat cheese or meat or eggs or fish - none of that. Just milk, either their own mothers' or the one you buy at any pharmacy.
The problem here is not that these parents were vegans. They were stupid and irresponsible.
And you've missed a wonderful chance to keep quiet and avoid embarrassing yourself.
EDIT -- No, I don't resort to insults simply to hide my alleged lack of "brilliance and facts". I do it for my own amusement - I get a tiny thrill out of it. Besides, foolish and hateful posts like yours really get on my wick.
And how DARE you talk to *me* about facts when what *you* are doing is intentionally ignoring hundreds (or thousands) of cases of children brought up as vegans right from birth and perfectly healthy? (Of which cases I know a couple myself, so I know what I'm talking about).
You say: Well, bud, the fact is, the way it should be put is like this, "They were stupid and irresponsible VEGANS".
It's true. And you're a silly HUMAN BEING, does that make all human beings silly? I don't think so. Silliness and ignorance transcend categories, races, religions and lifestyles, that is why there can be stupid and irresponsible vegans just as there can be stupid and irresponsible "anythings". Attributing the faults of two idiotic vegans to the whole category (which is what you have done) when thousands of other examples give you the lie, is not something that makes you appear bright - on the contrary.
*Your* argument is "not valid and without merit" because it's irrational and prejudiced. *Mine* is rational and corroborated by scientific analyses and experience.
EDIT -- Reading your edits is like watching a ship sink.|||Aww come on...
Yes everyone that has visited the V%26amp;V section has seen this story... It's been posted like 10 times...
I can understand the other idiots posting this question, but come on "nice guy" I really thought that you were smarter than that... I honestly am disappointed that someone I considered to be (although anti-vegan) smarter than the average joe.
After all of our little discussions, I actually considered you to be pretty intelligent... maybe a little prejudice against vegans, but most of the time your answers are very well-put and provide an opposite point of view for those new vegans out there.
You really buy that bunch of junk about the "vegan diet" being the cause of that baby's death?...
That baby was fed apple juice and soy milk?...am I right?... that is not a diet at all. Those parents were idiots... If they had half a brain they would have known that the so-called "diet" they had their child on, would inevitably KILL it!
Veganism was their excuse for killing that child...
Come on the kid weighed like 3 pounds or something(I don't know exactly) It was 6 weeks old and weighed 3 pounds... they had no Idea that something was wrong?... They are either complete idiots (which has nothing to do with the fact that they were vegans...they are plenty of non-vegan bad parents out there) Or they intentionally killed their child.
That one example doesn't prove anything... Cause I could look-up and give you probably over a million examples of meat-eaters starving their children.
Not even considering the instances of other types of child abuse performed by meat-eaters and vegetarians alike... It has nothing to do with someone's diet...
Those people ("parents") were idiots and murderers... It has nothing to do with their vegan diet...
Are you really going to imply that all vegan parents are bad parents?... You can't, because it is not true.
*****(edit)Yes, you disappoint... very, very sad.
And I don't flatter :] .... Not my thing.
Oh, I can see that all you want to do is help spread the correct word... I can tell by all the "some vegetarians eat fish" comments you've been making... because it is so true!...
[No, not really, It is actually very untrue... some meat- eaters may for some reason call themselves vegetarians... when they are not at all]
Oh and I think that anyone that starves their child is a criminal, doesn't have anything to do with vegan or not vegan...
I would have to agree completely with Anonymous... Babies that age eat nothing but mothers milk/ formula ... I would like to consider it a "baby" diet... Vegan doesn't even come into the picture...
ahhh forget it... I was going to write more, but I know that I (or any vegan for that matter) could ever present a reasonable, valid point to you, oh enlightened one.
You really just look for any and all reasons to make veganism look unhealthy... (personal problem if you ask me)...and this one seems like your worst attempt.|||http://veganhealth.org/articles/realvega鈥?/a>|||I believe they deserved to go to prison, although life sentences seem excessive.
Everyone should keep in mind that:
1. The mother did not breastfeed. Sorry, but we are mammals, and mammal mothers feed their young by breast milk. If they did not want to go that route, there are artificial formulas they could have used.
2. They did not consult anyone. A Pediatrician would have helped with feeding the baby under vegan guidelines, at least would have told them not to feed the baby apple juice yet. A doctor would have been able to tell them that the baby was become malnourished.
This should not become a matter of persecuted vegan, it is a matter of good parenting. Loving a baby is not enough, you have to do the right things as well. They did not and are paying a steep (and remember, I think life is too harsh) price.|||Hey, don't forget, this guy seems to be anti-vegan for whatever reason... Perhaps his mother told him, "Eat your veggies if you want to grow up big and strong," so he did, but didn't become big or strong so has a hatred for vegetables and especially those who eat a lot of vegetables.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/my/qa/index;_yl鈥?/a>|||This is not a wake up call for vegans, It is a miscarriage of justice. The baby was born at home without a doctor or nurse. It probably should have been in a neonatal unit. A first time mom and vegen probably didn't know to eat more to make milk. Manslaughter maybe not felony malice murder.|||how can people say it had nothing to do with the parents being vegan. thats what killed the baby wake up people.|||I want to know why this was brought up as an example of poor nutrition resulting in a child's death instead of, and not in addition to, the countless other nutrition related child death's that occur all of the time. One here in my city just last week.
Newsflash to the world. Just because someone is vegan doesn't mean they do or don't follow a good diet and just because someone consumes dairy, eggs and meat doesn't mean they get all the nutrients they require either.
No matter what kind of diet a person observes or feeds their children they need to be educated and informed and mindful.
You can't blame veganism or vegetarianism or an omnivorous diet on poor health.....but you can blame stupidity.|||sorry, never heard|||I'm sure they didn't mean to kill their child. They didn't know enough about the diet to know how to feed their infant properly. It is possible to get a proper diet, but it's not easy if you don't know what you're doing. I'm a vegetarian and it was difficult in the beginning to make sure I was getting the proper nutrition. They were probably new to vegan-ism themselves and didn't realize vegan infants can breast feed and it's not against any "vegan rules". Unfortunately, their child paid for their lack of education.
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